contact ball size?

topic posted Sun, June 8, 2008 - 9:18 AM by  Raphael
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I'm just starting to learn contact juggling and I'm wondering what size ball to get. My friend who showed me a few moves uses a 3", but has much smaller hands than I do. Would I be better off with a 4" model?

I have long fingers and wear a size 10 1/2 glove as I imagine that might make a difference in making the right selection.

Thanks!
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Raphael
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  • Re: contact ball size?

    Sun, June 8, 2008 - 10:09 AM
    The Contact Juggling.org wiki, is a great place to read all kinds of thoughts about balls.
    www.contactjuggling.org/wiki/i...s_balls

    For rolling, I think bigger is better (4-5 inch stage ball).

    If I were starting out, I would want both a 4in. stage ball, and a 5 in.
    I would also want a 4 in. clear, for practicing isolations. (they plastic slips more easily in the hand)
    Neon Husky has some really cheap deals on discount balls, with defects, but the site seems to be broken right now.
    (Click Enter store/contact juggling/discount balls)
  • Re: contact ball size?

    Tue, June 10, 2008 - 12:33 PM
    A general rule:

    Smaller balls: better for butterfly-style and multiball tricks, worse for isolations / bodyrolls
    Bigger balls: harder for butterfly-style and multiball tricks, better for isolations / bodyrolls
    • Re: contact ball size?

      Tue, June 10, 2008 - 3:00 PM
      I am kind of curious as to what size spheres people prefer for multiball work. I've been doing a lot of single ball stuff and am thinking of treating myself to a set of three inch acrylics to start learning some serious palmspinning-fu.

      Does anyone recommend (for or against) the size?
      • Re: contact ball size?

        Tue, June 10, 2008 - 3:28 PM
        I think 3 inch, looks better.

        might be worth starting with 3inch.
        • Re: contact ball size?

          Thu, June 12, 2008 - 11:51 PM
          > might be worth starting with 3inch. <

          I strongly disagree.

          I'd recommend using 2.25 to 2.5" balls to begin with, regardless of your hand's size or what you think "looks good". Snooker balls or billiard balls work fine and are much cheaper than acrylic, especially if you get used balls.

          You'll acquire sets of acrylics in various sizes eventually, but why spend that kind of money when you don't know if this skill will interest you in 6 months? In the meantime, assuming that you'll learn fast enough and be good enough to perform in public with your first set of palm-rollers is, uh, presumptuous.

          Continually using a set of rollers that are too large for you at your current state of ability is asking for tendonitis problems that may terminate any interest you have within weeks. Ibuprophen may help, but it won't stop you from being crippled if you move to fast.

          Increase the size of your balls very slowly, and only after you have developed the stretch and strength to handle your *current* size easily, whatever that size is, for at least 30 minutes at a time. When your most difficult multiball moves are easy, and everything else is fluid and rapid, only then can you safely consider moving up to the next available size of larger balls.

          YMMV, but if it doesn't, you've just screwed yourself out of doing *any* multiball work for 6 months to a year.
          • Re: contact ball size?

            Fri, October 2, 2009 - 11:36 AM
            when you mentioned time practicing I realized something.
            any weight affects how long you want to spend training. and training with a smaller ball increases reaction speed as things can go wrong just that little bit quicker..
            I just bought a 3"
            and I had been looking for something to tell me a 3 was the way to go as I had no idea how a 3 would feel in the hand..
            When it came in the mail I kinda groaned a bit but I'm getting the hang of it now and I feel much more driven to press on with the 3 now that thought about weight and practice time is clear to me..
        • Re: contact ball size?

          Fri, October 2, 2009 - 6:21 PM
          With multisphere, moving up or down a size effectively starts you back at the beginning. You have to reteach your hands everything because with smaller spheres you fingers tend to curl more as opposed to larger spheres which require more of a stretch. I've found that it works best to start with whatever size takes up pretty much your entire hand when holding 3 in a triangle. If you can hold them, you can learn to spin them. You just have to play for shorter periods of time while you build up your hand strength. It's a precarious line of practicing enough to progress and not going so long that you hurt yourself.
          Multi is a completely different animal than single. It's much easier to change sizes with single or one in each hand. I started on 2.25" spheres for multi, then realized that they were just too small. Even spinning two in one hand without clacking was a challenge when I first started with 2.5".
          I haven't decided yet if I want to relearn it all with 3"s.
          • Re: contact ball size?

            Sun, October 4, 2009 - 2:59 PM
            I'f you find that much difficulty in moving between sizes, even in 1/4" increments, you have a problem.

            Not impossible to overcome, but a problem. As you note, it just takes you more time to get where you want to be.

            A small trick that might help: start with your non-dominant hand.

            Why? Because you've spent much more time getting your motor skills grooved in with your dominant hand. So when you start a new size with your non-dominent hand, you have that much less to UN-learn.

            This is useful for similar problems, too.

            Good luck, and hope this helps.

            =Eric

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